speed control
if we could persuade the powers that be to extend the 40 mph limit to beyond the bottom cafe, we could possibly fall into the criteria for average speed cameras. the only way to stop the speeding in the village. may be something our parish council could look at.
The criteria for an average speed camera is a little more complex than you might expect. They are dealt with in a similar way as Fixed Cameras and to qualify to become a site the location must achieve a total of 22 points/km in a built up area or 18 points/km in a non built up area. Fatal or serious collisions count as 5 point and slight injury collisions are 1 point each. We use a base line period of the last 36months to assess the number of collisions over the site length which must not be less than 0.4km long. For sites up to 1km the above value is required for sites longer than 1km the value is per km. Hope that's clear. There are other factors in relation to traffic routes which are a little too complicated to go into here.
Only the Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership operate speed cameras in Lincolnshire and our site selection process has to comply with the criteria set out by the Department for Transport. This criterion includes locations where there are a history of speed related injury collisions supported by evidence of a high degree of non-compliance with the speed limit. In that respect the Lincolnshire Road Safety Partnership adheres to these guidelines to ensure that the process is completely transparent and that cameras are only used as a casualty reduction measure.
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Would the fact that we now have the new Lindsey Trail crossing the A158 in Hagworthingham be a good point to make. And just how many accidents have there been outside Rachels Cafe even recently? Moving the speed limit would certainly be a good start.
There has been a considerable amount of discussion during 2011 regarding the re-positioning of the speed signs Julian. This link takes you to previous minutes.
http://parishes.lincolnshire.gov.uk/hagworthingham/section.asp?catId=28585
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- The Clerk had contacted LCC Highways regarding the speeding concerns along the A158 through the village and as thought, this stretch does not meet the criteria for reducing the speed due to the lack of housing density. There was a possible solution of permanent flashing speed indicator sign, but this would need to be recommended through the county councillor and could cost between £2500-£3500 if paid for by PC itself.
Sept 2011.You make a good point Nicky, but whether or not it would make the difference. who knows.
over the years most accidents have been between the Cafe and the Raithby turning
i would think the fact that people are dying down there would be enough. what more do they need?
The subject hasn't gone away and it's ridiculous that that stretch of road is such a danger and still doesn't meet ''the criteria''!
It might need lots of 'ordinary' people to make direct requests in writing to the Highways Department.
Highways East................
(covers: Louth, Mablethorpe, Wragby, Sutton on Sea, Alford, Horncastle, Skegness, Spilsby, W. Spa)
LCC Highways Depot, Manby Middlegate, Grimoldby, LN11 8SU
(Phone lines are open Mon-Fri 8am-6pm. We are closed on bank holidays)
Tel: 01522 782070 Fax: 01507 328918 Email: LCCHighwaysEast@lincolnshire.gov.uk
We were told that we needed 4 fatalities
Great we need to get 4 people killed before they put in mesures to stop people getting killed! I cant be the only one who finds that MENTAL
What's the current tally?
To my knowledge during the last 25years there have been NO fatalities but there have been several accidents varying in severity and numerous near misses. Rachel at the Cafe would perhaps know more as she organised the last meeting we had with the Authorities
someone died down there 2 years ago. that was the last one i know of. i ll be very suprised if that s the only one in 25 years.
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