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Cowboy builders

Hi
I'm reposting this from a blog that I write:  We all know that these are hard times for the building industry and, especially for the small builder, the wet summer weather has not helped either. One told me recently that a job that should have taken five days had stretched over four weeks.
So we should applaud efforts to find work. But they can be counter-productive as in the case of the young man who approached my partner as he was on his way into the house. He was of course 'working in the neighbourhood' and offered first to fix the roof (not our area of responsibility as we are on the ground floor) and then to fix the admittedly dilapidated front path. When my partner said he would think about it and took a card, he thought that was the end of the matter. But no. Fifteen minutes later there was a ring at the front doorbell, and another young man stood there. His colleague had already set to work with a pickaxe. My partner, who has poor eyesight, expressed outrage but wasn't sure what had been done. They said it was an 'honest mistake' and scarpered.
Since when I have been trying to speak to the building company, with no success, and have also been in touch with the police. I would like some compensation. A job that needed doing some time is now urgent as the path is unsafe. And I know who I won't be employing to do it.
We make endless jokes in this country about cowboy builders. It is tragic that so many live up to their reputation. ( http://therooflightcompany.blogspot.co.uk) The builders are M&A builders, based in W14. Anybody had a similar experience?

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caroline w
I think 'We are doing some work in your area' is a standard line for itinerant cowboys.  Roofs and pathways (usually tarmac) are their normal stock in trade.

I just won't speak to anyone who knocks on my door and tries to sell me something, no matter what identification they have.

If I want something or I want something done I go out and find proper people.

I don't think these M&A Builders will be found because they have probably already moved on to another town.
Ruth S
I have had a couple of replies. They waylaid Barry on the path as he was coming in, so it wasn't even a matter of speaking to someone on the doorstep. In general of course I'm not hopeful, but feeling vindictive.
mungomuffit
"Honest mistake", my a*se. There was a story on Watchdog some time ago about a similar scam. The people involved were Irish travellers. There was also a dreadful case reported in the papers several months ago about travellers preying on homeless men, keeping them as slaves to carry out these sort of scams. Several members of the same family were convicted and jailed.

I won't let anyone do any work on my house unless they come from a personal recommendation. And I've just discovered that Whick.co.uk has a list of recommended builders. They also give free legal advice to people having problems with builders, like you Ruth, but you have to be a member.

Lucy S
Ruth, have you written to yr local paper, The South London Post, about this?  also Jeff whose-surname-i-forget writes a regular column in the Telegraph about builders, building issues etc, so i will dig out his name next time i'm looking at the Telegraph at the weekend.  

my last doorstepping experience was hilarious.  a young woman turned up telling me that there were grants available for insulation, money supplied by energy companies and running out, so i had to sign up there and then.  when i asked for a website address so i could look at the organisation and think about it when i had peace and time, she was amazed and said i was the first person to ask her for such a detail.  it seems to me a very basic way to check something is kosher - that there is a website declaring what the organisation is for, nothing complicated.  

Ruth S
I am a member of Which actually. the point is, of course we didn't ask these people to do any work, and of course we didn;t give them any money. They just pickaxed our path. I now have a proper builder who is going to redo the path for me properly. Which I suppose I would have done some time. Just didn't want to do it now. I would like to get them to pay for some of the work but of course they have stopped answering the phone..... I spoke to the police who suggested I sort it out with them myself.
mungomuffit
Coincidently, I was just reading about cowboy builders this morning in my latest copy of the Which magazine. As you are also a member, check out the advice on pages 64-65, which includes sending a "pre-action" letter by recorded delivery asking for compensation within a set period, failing which you can claim in the small claims court. You will need the name and address of the company, but from what you say it sounds like you have this already.
caroline w
That is good advice but, realistically, they are probably going to be sole traders and that means having to find out their personal details before you can chase in the Small Claims Court.  And that might not be easy....
mungomuffit
true Caroline ... it will probably be like getting blood out of a stone. Even if you do win at court they might default on the judgment to avoid paying and set up under another name.

Still, I think it's worth a try Ruth. Start looking for info about them on the internet, look them up on Companies House and the govt org that registers businesses. Also call Which for advice. I hope you get the buggers. I'd be livid if that had happened to me.
Ruth S
I am livid. But also busy. And lazy. So will probably let it go. Thanks for all the supportive messages though.
caroline w
..and the bonus is you're getting your path fixed at last!
Concho
Not cowboys (too nice a word). just CROOKS who should be jailed
caroline w
I just saw a thing on Crimewatch Roadshow featuring the same scam...

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