I completly agree! I have some beautiful foxes that are in my & my neighbours garden day & night! The cats are not bothered one bit. We often feed them if we have food going!
Foxes are becoming a serious problem - and could become as common as rats and mice. They are only with us in towns because we humans are a good source of food supply. We put out garbage every night and, naturally, the foxes come to feed. Whatever your opinion on foxes they will be with us as long as this endless supply of food is available to them. They will become less timid and will have no compunction about going into your homes and raiding the larder. They already are attracted to the smell of milk surrounding newborn babies and young children. That is why some have already been attacked. Foxes are carnivores who keep the countryside clean. the COUNTRYSIDE but not urban communities and they are very successful about leaving their litter all over the pavements. So - what to do. You cannot eliminate them as other fox families will move in to take up the sapce vacated by another. The only thing that will put them off is to cut off the food supply. Keep your rubbish inside until the garbage truck arrives. DO NOT FEED FOXES as you can harm them with unsuitable food. Make them go back to the countryside and use their hunting skills to remove dead carcases etc. and to hunt rabbits. Be aware that lazy human beings are entirely responsible for the current plague of urban foxes.
Same here; there are a few near us and one is clearly unwell. This is distressing enough in itself, but who knows what illnesses it coould be passing on to other animals, or risks to children playing in local gardens?
So Sarah b and mark rather see the foxes disappear! Such a shame! We can all live in harmony. I have a 4 cubs just being born in my garden and I stopped my garden regime to give them quality time. It's sad it's all about us us us..
I'm with you Tod! I have a 5 month old baby & I'm not worried about her being attacked by a fox. Attacks are very rare. If you saw a stray cat or dog you'd feed them & try & help so why not foxes, they are still an animal that can feel pain & hunger & would do anything to protect their young, not to dis similar to us Humans! If you Feed the foxes they won't rip open your bin bags for food! Live & let live! Foxes were here long before us & will be here long after we're gone! Why do they deserve any less respect than you would give your pet.
I'm reading this thread with interest. I too would be sad to see the foxes go. I know they can be a nuisance, but that's because of the way they are forced to live. I can't say I have anything of value to add, or have any knowledge on the best way to deal with them, other than not leaving rubbish out where they can get to it - for the record the same is true in coastal towns where seagulls attack rubbish and spew it all over the street(s) so it's not just a fox problem - but I will watch and see what others have to say, and if there is a group, neighbourhood wide scheme / agreement on how best to deal with them and feed them, I will happily comply.
Hi tod - I'm not sure what prompted you to start up the fox debate again, but if you do a search, you'll find that we've had the whole pro/anti fox issue discussed almost ad nauseam........
Now if you want to start a thread about screaming over-indulged children taking up space in adult territory.....
Sarah no thanks I don't wish to start up a trivial chat. Try and leave some healthy left overs in a dog dish then we won't have litter and broken bags everywhere. See that way we can do some proper recycling. The last time I saw a Lambeth council van just chucking the recycling bags as litter, so our hard efforts are wasted this way we get personal satisfaction and feed a creature that is not a lying politician or councilor that gives us false hopes.., simples...
My cats will usually leave some of their wet cat food, so rather than binning it, and allow it to stink out the bin until the rubbish is collected, I take it to the end of the garden and leave it out, the plate is always cleaned. Thought stray cats were eating it, then found blackbirds and robins, and the foxes all benefit. Best of all, my rubbish put outside the night before collection has never been ripped open, I never find maggots at the bottom of the bin these days, so we all seem to benefit. The occasional bit of fox poo seems a small price to pay, annoying but that is life.
Sadly I saw my cat attacked by two hungry foxes hunting cats in packs!
Please do not encourage foxes.
They grabbed hold of my oldest cat and try to drag her away in broad day light; she is fine - I yelled at them and the other two cats with her chased the foxes it was terrifying - and she was very traumatised - sodden by their saliver, bruised but survived...
I believe that all these missing cats are due to hungry foxes that humans are encouraging into our neighbourhoods
There have also been two incidents of children been bitten by foxes too; and one of our neighbours came into their babies room to find a fox eyeing her little boy up last year!
Do not encourage foxes please, they really are lovelier in the country not the city...Thanks Liz
No, Tod, let's all NOT follow that idea. It's bad enough that you, Katrina and Gilly are positively encouraging foxes by feeding them but please don't encourage other people to do the same.
i wasn't going to get involved in yet another pointless Streetlife thread about foxes because it just ends up with everyone going round in circles, but your latest posting really is the last straw.
I just wonder what your motivation was in starting this new thread on foxes when we've already had at least two long threads before. Simply throwing out the message "Be nice to foxes - I know there nuisance but still deserve respect" (sic) makes me think that the whole point was to see what kind of debate you could start!
Mischievous but rather pointless because the "aren't they lovely, fluffy creatures" brigade unfortunately refuses to accept that there could be another side to the argument and that there might be some value in discouraging the urban foxes who live around us, out of their natural habitat.
Perhaps, Tod, since you are so keen to promote your cause, you could explain to my friend's three young children why one of these "wonderful" creatures tore the head off their beautiful rabbit, leaving the body in one part of the garden and the head in another.......
Tod t has only posted this to wind people up.....Tod t you will always be out voted on this one. more people are anti fox ...personally i would vote to cull them humanely of course just like trolls. pressing the red x top right now
Mark and Sarah this is not x factor for voting. It's a site for discussion and subjects can be brought up again if need be not for Sarah to decide if and when they should. If you do want to have a say or have anything of any value then just ignore the post.
As for winding up people well everyone is free to there opinion even if it's nonsense.
Cats, dogs, rabbits, foxes and even ants have an equal right to this planet like us. So who we to decide whether they should stay in tooting or move them to guildford.
Like everything in life deal with issues in a loving way and things will be brighter and we will feel good ourselves. We have learnt from some positive feedbacks on this post that by leaving healthy left overs the foxes won't rip open rubbish bags and make a mess. Eating decent food they will have less illnesses thus not passing viruses or killing the for little girls rabbits.
Foxes having feelings too are and not foolish. Cleaning a little fox poo is not the end of the world.
Anyway let's put those post down to the fact that they are still some decent folk left who care about life whether it be fox or a cat and sadly some who are selfish and pick and choose. This explains why the world has gone mad.
I agree with others who have pointed our this has been discussed many times on Streetlife so can't see much point in endlessly discussing it but for the record:
1. My view has not been changed by what I have read. I still think we should give priiority to the health and safety of young children and domestic pets.
2 I too am fed up of the mess they make outside my hose every night and I worry about hygiene and health issues.
3.I have noticed foxes have become less frightened of humans in the past year - they do not run away now if I try to shoo them away. This is scary as I wonder how long it will be before they actually attack people. I have read that adults holding food shopping have been attacked which is scary.
4. I like foxes but in the country which is their natural home.
Neighbour, maybe the foxes in Battersea aren't as considerate as the ones in Balham. We have foxes in our garden and I, my kids and cats have never had a problem with them. I've always been at a loss to understand why Londoners hate them so much, but then I've been an animal-lover since I was a kid.
I get far more worked up about human litter-bugs (c.f. other thread re mystery dumper in Tooting!)
Maybe my local foxes in Battersea/Clapham Common are more tame than yours but I'm surprised you are willing to take the risk. Also as I am sure you know foxes are getting larger each year and recently foxes the size of Alsatians have been found.
I would wonder how you would feel giving your views to the mother of a baby who has been attacked by a fox or a family whose cat has been attacked by a fox. I wonder what they would say if they heard you encouraging parents to be reckless with the safety of children and pets.
I don't hate foxes at all I have lives in the country for years where they are common all I am saying is I must put the welfare of babies, toddlers and domestic cats and dogs first. It is clear that some others do not.
Of course I put my children first, very rude of you to suggest that I don't. Perhaps because they are primary school age the foxes run away when they go in the garden. I certainly wouldn't leave a baby unattended in the garden with foxes around. I pretty sure my cats would come out on top if a fox decided to take them on, however they live quite peacefully together. Obviously I keep an eye on them when they are out and I would change my tune if I wasn't sure they were safe. Our foxes are not tame - they run off the second they see us. When we are in the house and they are in the garden we like watching them from a window.
To be honest I love foxes - the ones in Balham are the ones that have attacked my cats on two occassions - a baby
Neighbour is right - love foxes but I think even the foxes prefer living in the country:) When I lived in sussex they looked much happier and healthier
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Now if you want to start a thread about screaming over-indulged children taking up space in adult territory.....
Please do not encourage foxes.
They grabbed hold of my oldest cat and try to drag her away in broad day light; she is fine - I yelled at them and the other two cats with her chased the foxes it was terrifying - and she was very traumatised - sodden by their saliver, bruised but survived...
I believe that all these missing cats are due to hungry foxes that humans are encouraging into our neighbourhoods
There have also been two incidents of children been bitten by foxes too; and one of our neighbours came into their babies room to find a fox eyeing her little boy up last year!
Do not encourage foxes please, they really are lovelier in the country not the city...Thanks Liz
i wasn't going to get involved in yet another pointless Streetlife thread about foxes because it just ends up with everyone going round in circles, but your latest posting really is the last straw.
I just wonder what your motivation was in starting this new thread on foxes when we've already had at least two long threads before. Simply throwing out the message "Be nice to foxes - I know there nuisance but still deserve respect" (sic) makes me think that the whole point was to see what kind of debate you could start!
Mischievous but rather pointless because the "aren't they lovely, fluffy creatures" brigade unfortunately refuses to accept that there could be another side to the argument and that there might be some value in discouraging the urban foxes who live around us, out of their natural habitat.
Perhaps, Tod, since you are so keen to promote your cause, you could explain to my friend's three young children why one of these "wonderful" creatures tore the head off their beautiful rabbit, leaving the body in one part of the garden and the head in another.......
more people are anti fox ...personally i would vote to cull them humanely of course just like trolls.
pressing the red x top right now
As for winding up people well everyone is free to there opinion even if it's nonsense.
Cats, dogs, rabbits, foxes and even ants have an equal right to this planet like us. So who we to decide whether they should stay in tooting or move them to guildford.
Like everything in life deal with issues in a loving way and things will be brighter and we will feel good ourselves. We have learnt from some positive feedbacks on this post that by leaving healthy left overs the foxes won't rip open rubbish bags and make a mess. Eating decent food they will have less illnesses thus not passing viruses or killing the for little girls rabbits.
Foxes having feelings too are and not foolish. Cleaning a little fox poo is not the end of the world.
Anyway let's put those post down to the fact that they are still some decent folk left who care about life whether it be fox or a cat and sadly some who are selfish and pick and choose. This explains why the world has gone mad.
I officially end this post.
Thank you for your feedback...
1. My view has not been changed by what I have read. I still think we should give priiority to the health and safety of young children and domestic pets.
2 I too am fed up of the mess they make outside my hose every night and I worry about hygiene and health issues.
3.I have noticed foxes have become less frightened of humans in the past year - they do not run away now if I try to shoo them away. This is scary as I wonder how long it will be before they actually attack people. I have read that adults holding food shopping have been attacked which is scary.
4. I like foxes but in the country which is their natural home.
Negative peeps - you don't !
Neighbour, maybe the foxes in Battersea aren't as considerate as the ones in Balham. We have foxes in our garden and I, my kids and cats have never had a problem with them. I've always been at a loss to understand why Londoners hate them so much, but then I've been an animal-lover since I was a kid.
I get far more worked up about human litter-bugs (c.f. other thread re mystery dumper in Tooting!)
Maybe my local foxes in Battersea/Clapham Common are more tame than yours but I'm surprised you are willing to take the risk. Also as I am sure you know foxes are getting larger each year and recently foxes the size of Alsatians have been found.
I would wonder how you would feel giving your views to the mother of a baby who has been attacked by a fox or a family whose cat has been attacked by a fox. I wonder what they would say if they heard you encouraging parents to be reckless with the safety of children and pets.
I don't hate foxes at all I have lives in the country for years where they are common all I am saying is I must put the welfare of babies, toddlers and domestic cats and dogs first. It is clear that some others do not.
Neighbour is right - love foxes but I think even the foxes prefer living in the country:)
When I lived in sussex they looked much happier and healthier
Best wishes Liz
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