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Andrew Rossindell's Bully Boys !

For the past few weeks I have been subjected to insults and Inappropriate remarks from Andrew Rossindell supporters on The Angry of Havering web site, please see the following posts

http://welcome-to-the-angry-forum-part-of-www-angryofhavering-com.964883.n3.nabble.com/General-Pinoc...

http://welcome-to-the-angry-forum-part-of-www-angryofhavering-com.964883.n3.nabble.com/kashmir-tp402...

http://welcome-to-the-angry-forum-part-of-www-angryofhavering-com.964883.n3.nabble.com/Time-for-Mrs-...

I wonder if the MP knows that his supporters are acting in this manner?  In fact a poster called James Tucker when referring to me in a post yesterday states "The MP has wiped the floor with her".  As far as I am aware there have been four people posting under anonymous user ID's.  To make this statement suggests that one of the posters was in fact Andrew Rosindell himself !!  

I have been accused of not caring if our soldiers died in the Falklands and a number of other insults.  I think that the conduct of these young conservative supporters is really quite disturbing and I sincerely hope that our MP has not been encouraging this behaviour ! 

This is all due to the fact that I do not agree that it is right to admire a mass murderer like Pinochet !

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Lorraine Mossinactive
Just to remind readers this is what Andrew Rosindell said in the Romford Recorder on 14 June 2012 when he was asked for a comment regarding the fact that Crime and Disorder Chairman Cllr Osman Dervish had been a member of the fan club for Chilean Dictator General Pinochet,

" “We should be grateful for what he did for our country. If Osman happened to join a group, then so what? I would happily be a member of that group. I have huge admiration for General Pinochet.”
Lorraine Mossinactive
It must also be asked why have not any of these supporters actually composed a letter of support for Andrew Rosindell ?  For the past 3 weeks he has been heavily criticised on the letter page of the Romford Recorder and there has not been one single letter defending him !
Ken Rinactive
Lorraine,
Were or are all of the bully boys wearing the same coloured dark shirts ?
Lorraine Mossinactive
Hi Ken, I believe so but they did not put their names to their comments !
Michael Y
Lorraine write a letter of complaint to Rosindell romford office,if no joy complain to tory central office,or you could start a petition against his Pinochet support I will be the first to sign
Lorraine Mossinactive
Thanks Michael.  The problem is that many of us know who these posters are but we cannot prove it.  I have tweeted the link to this post to the Conservative party and many other places.
Michael Y
Im sure he knows he made a big mistake supporting Pinochet,so a petition is an option if you wanted to go for that i would knock on a few doors
Mick Sinactive
Some of this needs to be communicated to Andrew Rosindell so that he is aware of the situation and of people's strong feelings. Feel free! His email address is: andrew@rosindell.com
Michael Y
Mick S-- Rosindell is fully aware of my views
Ken Rinactive
Hi Lorraine,

Following your invite to join 'Angry of Havering' I had a look at the website. I must say that I am full of admiration of you and the posters who challenge the 'unjustness' ( I know that I may have just made up that word but it sounds appropriate) of politicians in your area.
 
However I feel that as I live in the neighbouring borough it would not necessarily be fair to add comments. I will however, with your approval, use or plagiarize some of your posting which have a common thread to Dagenham.

I would just add that I do have a keen interest in Havering having been brought up, schooled, resided and worked in the borough for a total of more than 30 years. I still have two daughters who live in  the borough. 

Roll on May 2014, I may just have enough time to put together a campaign to stand as an independent councillor, who knows. Watch This space !  Best of Luck ........... .
Lorraine Mossinactive
Thanks Mick S. I already have Andrew's email address.
Lorraine Mossinactive
Thanks Ken R, I have sent you a message.
Michael Y
Hope the bad comment,s have stopped Lorraine M
Lorraine Mossinactive
Hi Micheal Y, they stopped as soon as I started this thread.  If there are anymore inappropriate comments I will add them to this post.

Michael Y
glad to hear it keep up the good work !
Lorraine Mossinactive
Thanks.  Did you see the posts on Angry from a man from Chilie?  Please see below;

After taking power in a 1973 coup, General Augusto Pinochet ruled Chile for 17 years. He had every reason to believe he would never be prosecuted for the atrocities committed by his regime. The Chilean military had granted itself a blanket amnesty, and Pinochet himself enjoyed immunity as a senator. 

However, Spanish judge Baltasar Garzon brought charges of torture and genocide against him, and Pinochet was arrested during a trip to London. He remained there under house arrest, and now death was the only way he escaped  judgment for his crimes. 

These include the more than 3,000 Chileans who were "disappeared"-murdered in state custody, their fates kept secret-during his years in power. 

During Pinochet's dictatorship, he and his cohorts not only terrorized their country's citizens; they also methodically dismantled the popular political institutions Chile had known before the coup, and tried to erase from the minds of Chileans the memory of their democratic traditions. 

Part and parcel of this violent restructuring was adoption of a neoliberal, "free market" economic model, espoused by a group of economists trained in the school of Milton Friedman. 

Chile still hasn't recovered from his years in power. In fact, the civilian governments that have run Chile since 1990, even coalitions including socialist members, have continued to carry out his economic policies. 

Of all the dark shadows cast from those days, one of the longest is that of Chile's so-called "economic miracle." 

The advent of Chile as a model for economic reform is a complete myth.  Most of the reforms introduced  between  1973 – 1985 failed to achieve even their primary objectives. 

The initiation of the structural reforms and the stabilisation programme of the mid 70’s, coupled with severe shock in terms of trade, led to a harsh recession in which unemployment rose to above 16% of the workforce and at the same time real wages declined by 15% in the years 1974 and 1975. 

The recession was followed by several years of the Pinochet regime claiming economic success. From 1974 to 1981 real unemployment remained at an average of 17.6% compared to an average of 6% from 1965 to 1973 and the real wage was 6.3% lower in 1981 than it was in 1973. 

The euphoric claims of the Pinochet government came to an abrupt end in 1981 when the economy completely collapsed under the weight of unsustainable accumulation of foreign debt. 
The resulting recession was the most severe in all of the Latin American countries. 
Unemployment rose to 30% of the labour force in 1983 and real wages fell by 10% in the same year. 

The Falklands conflict. 

Argentina had military ambitions of taking two groups of islands. One was the Falklands Islands, or Las Malvinas, which were of British sovereignty. 

The Argentine government also planned to seize the disputed Beagle Channel islands after the occupation of the Falkland Islands. In 1978 sovereignty of the Beagle Channel Islands was awarded to Chile. 

The only reason Pinochet helped the British government was in return for military help in the defence of the Beagle Channel Islands. This help was in the form of arms sales which included
military aircraft. 


Saving British lives is a complete myth, the same as the “economic miracle”. 

Matias Dominguez 


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July 2004 The U.S. Senate investigation revealed that Pinochet has a fortune in foreign bank accounts, estimated by a Chilean judge at $28 million. Pinochet was subsequently indicted for tax evasion. 

Augusto Pinochet was a career army officer and military dictator of Chile from 1973 to 1990. His years in power were marked by inflation, poverty and the ruthless repression of opposition leaders. 

Pinochet was also involved in Operation Condor, a co-operative effort on the part of several South American governments to do away with leftist opposition leaders, often by means of murder. 

Several years after stepping down, he was charged with several war crimes relating to his time as President, but he died in 2006 before he could be convicted of anything. 

This year The National Security Archive has posted key documents released on March 15 by the Subcommittee on Investigations of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs showing conclusively that former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet had used multiple aliases and false identification to maintain over 125 secret bank accounts at the Riggs National Bank Washington DC and eight other financial institutions in the United States. 

In a review of banking records, Senate investigators found ten false names used by Pinochet to disguise his accounts, among them Daniel Lopez, A.P. Ugarte and Jose Pinochet. 

Records obtained from the Riggs Bank and Citibank showed that Pinochet presented falsified passports under the names of Augusto Ugarte and Jose Ramon Ugarte for account identification. 

In their investigation into money laundering, foreign corruption and inadequate enforcement of banking rules to fight terrorism, the staff of Senator Carl Levin has obtained thousands of internal banking records, among them confidential memoranda, emails, accounting reports, and even private letters from Riggs officials to General Pinochet. 

Many of these documents are cited in their "Staff Report on U.S. accounts used by Augusto Pinochet" released today .  Under the Freedom of Information Act, the National Security Archive has requested the declassification of these documents from the Office of the Controller of the Currency (OCC). 

But the OCC, which is implicated in the Pinochet financial scandal for its failure to monitor his illicit transactions at Riggs, has refused to release any of the documentation, even though the Senate Subcommittee has already published hundreds of pages of banking records related to Pinochet's accounts. 

The new evidence promises to further erode Gen. Pinochet's legal and political standing in Chile where the former dictator faced charges of corruption and tax evasion, as well as homicide and terrorism. 

 "This is the final nail in the coffin of Pinochet's legacy." 

Said Peter Kornbluh, the Archive's Chile specialist who hailed the work of Senate investigators in uncovering dramatic documentation of financial wrongdoing. 

 "Not since the IT&T papers were revealed in 1972 has there been a corporate scandal of this magnitude relating to Chile," he said. 

I am the Brother of one of this sites founders, (Angry of Havering), and I am writing this for Matias, that is not his real name, he is still too frightened to use it. 

He cannot speak English and he lives as my neighbour in Spain. 

He arrived in Spain from Chile as a penny less, or peseta less, political refugee in 1975. He doesn’t even want me to say whereabouts in Spain. 
  
When I asked him what he thought of people that “admire” Augusto Pinochet he said: 

“Puede te pudras en el infierno”. 

May you rot in hell. 

Matias will not be saying anymore, thank you for reading. 

Matias Dominguez 


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Michael Y
yes i know a bit of the history of the Pinochet rule,the USA never wanted Allende in power so they gave the General a lot of support

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