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young people

why are the council putting 18 to 25 single youngsters in flats they have parties thro rubbish out of windows for others to put in bins provided.   these flats were at one time for the over 55s right had my moan for today                                        sukie

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Bourbon B
How did they get a flat thought the waiting list was 20 years. Had noisy neighbours myself once it makes your life hell, authorities not interested. Make sure you send the Jehovah's and charity colllecters to them early in the morning. Lots of other things you can do to wind them up. Play at their own game most are too stupid to find their behind in the bath.
Poppy T
MOVE! Thats what I had to do...three years I was in hell with awful neighbours....now all good x

Paul M
You should be able to call the Out of Hours service and they can usually send a Neighbourhood Warden around; particularly if there's an Antisocial Behaviour incident going on at the time you phone in or if this was one of your immediate neighbours, go and speak to them as they're not always aware that they're causing a problem - I'd speak to them first and if all else fails then call the ASB team (I had a similar problem and as soon as I did this, it's made such a difference!!)
Simon C
Paul M is right , but only if 1/ they might not know they are being a problem, 2/ speak English or can understand enough English to know what you're on about, 3/ are educated to a level whereby they know what you are talking about with the use of the f or c word every other word and 4/ if you think you are not going to either get spat on or at the very worst stabbed.
No, sorry, leave it to the professionals every time, thats what they are paid for.
Lynda E
Play loud music at around 7 am!  If they play obnoxious thumping music into the night it works if you have either classical organ or orchestral music.  One man's meat......
Simon C
Love it Lynda. One man's meat ............is a vegetarians nightmare. !
Simon C
Dummy  CCTV cameras screwed to the outside of the property if one cant afford the real ones are at least a deterrent.
However, you must put up a CCTV in operation sign by law. You can buy them I believe in Machine Mart near the Gibraltar gardens pub on Heigham street.
Lynda E
Apologies, Simon, for the meat comment but, at least it illustrates the point that one person's taste in music can be distasteful to another!
Simon C
No apologies necessary, I myself am not a veggie, I was just doing a play on words / reinventing an already popular phrase. LOL
Desertflower
As Paul said, I'd call the out of hours team and also get other neighbours reporting it too, for support in your favour. There may be a good reason as to why they have been housed there but you deserve an answer.Monitor their behaviour in a diary if you can also as backup evidence.I wouldn't approach them personally and put yourself at risk (if they are troublesome) or they may make things worse if they know who's complaining about them.
Simon C
You are so right Desert flower. Do not put yourself at risk. All too often we see in the papers and on the news, someone attacked or stabbed for trying to intervene or be a good neighbor. 
Julie P
Please do not judge ALL of that age group in the same way. It may be this age group that cause the problems but it is Far from all of them. I'm sure that all older people would not like to be judged in a certain way by younger people. I am in my late forties but hope I am able to judge people by their actions nit their age
Fred
My son was under 25 when he got his first flat, he did NOT throw rubbish out of the window or have all night parties.....he had loud neighbours of a more mature age who should know better, and another  neighbour didt really want to talk to him.....after a while they relized he was not so bad and got on quite well......until some real lowlife moved in made life hell for everyone....everyone moved out or transfered including my son and his wife.....the lowlife stayed...talk about being fair to good tenents....please no age discrimination ...they are not all bad
Simon C
Fred, I am not ageist at all, believe me.
However, a  percentage of youngsters that are housed in council accommodation do just not know how to behave in a civilized society, and don't seem to understand that in a relatively confined area people all need to get on as best as is humanly possible.
There are a lot of really good kids out there, plenty who do stuff in and for the community too, but it is the same old adage,   it is usually the minority that spoil it for the majority. Plus of course , if they have come from a background where all they have seen is unemployment, drugs, alcohol abuse, violence no self pride or self worth, accepting that making a nuisance and a whole lot of noise is alright, the chances are that is how they will turn out. Products of the environment they grew up in.
Paul M
You're so right, Simon C :)
Fred
I agree with what you say too....such a shame really, my son has a allotment too and got frowned on by the old guard.......but now if i dear say it he puts their veggie results to shame.....i am sure they thought he was going to use it for 'other purposes ' lol

Amanda B
Are you talking about flats in general or a particular place? I'm 21 and live in a block of flats and have no problem at all with any of my neighbours. Most young people get put in flats as they are the cheapest place to house us and I'm not saying anyone has said this but a common misconception is that we just doss around and get a place to live from the council. Whilst I'm not saying this doesn't happen a lot of people need housing by the council for genuine reasons and flats are the best option! I had to spend three and a half month homeless before I got my flat and it's a great place to live. We have a mixture of ages of residents, some families but never have problems with anyone.
Simon C
Amanda B, you sound like a model younger council tenant. I wish more people had your values and tried harder to mix with the existing residents.
Stephen O
Middle age people...

Three doors down we have a mid age couple who have kids that throw eggs, fruit etc at your windows, you knock round to complain but they never answer, my housemate confronted the kids once and they have since stopped.

An older guy guy behind me keeps bees, sometimes he throws water on them and they swarm on the nearest thing to protect the queen, could be you, your cat, your dog though most of the time just your tree at the end of your garden so you can't sit outside and enjoy your breakfast.

Further up the street someone I know lives next door to a mid age woman who is a bit loud in the bedroom, they complained but apparently this woman has the right to express herself in this way... 

These people aren't even council tenants, they're home owners, we have a lot of people who are 20-30 renting / council tenants on our street and they all seem fine, here it seems like the older you get the more self important you become and therefore have a right to complain and annoy others.
Desertflower
I totally agree with you Stephen O.It's more often the older tenants who can be very selfish in disregarding their neighbours. No age group is exempt. As for your local Bee Keeper in the neighbourhood why not check out this information written by Norwich City Council regarding the registration of keeping livestock-mentions Beekeeping.Maybe your neighbour isn't a registered Beekeeper and could be investigated?

Keeping bees
You must not keep bees until you have been given permission in
writing by the city council. Please see the Allotment rules for the
conditions on keeping livestock and bees.
You should not bring any bees on to, or purchase any equipment
for your plot until you have received written permission from the
council to do so.
Things to consider
• You should consider whether bee hives can be placed on your
plot without causing a nuisance to others and without attracting
vandalism. Hives should be as unobtrusive as possible. The area
needs to be accessible enough to allow manipulations to be
carried out without working in the bees’ flight path.
• Hives must be located near the centre of the plot and not next
to a boundary, unless the boundary is next to an area in which
no nuisance is likely to be caused; ie not a garden, another plot,
a path, a park or a communal area. A railway line, river or
natural area would be acceptable.
• If your plot is next to a road, public footpath or cycleway,
permission is unlikely to be granted.
• If the environment is suitable and there is an adequate forage
area for honey bees.
• If there is access convenient for you.
• You will need to have access to protective clothing and be
prepared to visit the allotment regularly to check on the bees.
• There is a maximum limit of three hives per acre and the council
reserves the right to reduce this figure.
LIVESTOCK GUIDANCE PAGE 7
• The number of hives permitted for an individual plot will depend
upon the demand from other allotment holders on the site but will
be no more than three per tenant of a full sized (250m2) plot.
• A water supply must be provided on the plot close to the hives.
• A 2 metre high screen or other physical barrier should enclose
the hives so that the bees are encouraged to fly at that height
when leaving or approaching the hive.
• The council reserves the right to refuse an allotment holder the
right to keep bees. For example, if it is considered that the plot
or the site is in an unsuitable position.
• The council reserves the right to request that beehives are
removed. For example, if the presence of the bees is found to be
causing a nuisance to other people.
How to apply
Any tenant given permission to keep bees must have a formal
qualification in beekeeping, such as the BBA basic exam. The
beekeeper must have a minimum of one year’s experience of
handling and keeping bees before taking the basic exam.
Both practical and theory beekeeping courses are available at
Easton College.
The tenant must maintain annual insurance of £5 million cover
which can be achieved through being a paid up member of the
local beekeepers association or The British Beekeepers’ Association.
The beekeeper must be competent to recognise signs of swarming
and carry out regular inspections for these. The beekeeper must be
competent to carry out effective swarm control measures and carry
them out when signs of swarming occur.
PAGE 8 LIVESTOCK GUIDANCE
If you satisfy the above requirements you should request an
application form to keep bees. You will need to supply a sketch
showing the proposed location of each hive and the position of the
screen or barrier and the water supply.
Once an application has been received a notice will be posted on
the site and/or plot for one month allowing comments to be made
by other allotment holders.
If you are given permission to keep bees you must comply with the
rules and conditions in the Allotment rules together with the
guidance in this supplement.
Keeping bees
All beekeepers must register with the National Bee Unit which
entitles you to a free apiary inspection visit from the local bee
inspector and up to date information and web resources.
Honey bees are susceptible to a number of serious infectious
diseases, some of which must be reported to DEFRA. Regional bee
inspectors have the right to access hives to deal with disease and to
survey the extent of the spread to or from other colonies. Standstill
or destruction notices can be issued and the beekeeper must cooperate
as fully as possible.
Manipulations may only be carried out when there are not, or not
likely to be, other people close by before the bees have settled again.
If the bees are unnecessarily aggressive they should be re-queened
with a queen from a reputable supplier of docile strains. The
deliberate introduction of aggressive strains of bees will constitute
a breach of your tenancy agreement and could result in the
termination of your tenancy or a ban on keeping livestock,
including bees, on your allotment plot.

Poppy T
No its not an age related thing, my neighbours from hell where aged 2, 14, 18, 37 and 40!
Stephen Holmes
ther are tomany people like you, i suppose you are perfect young people have a right to a home like everyone else, ther are ways to combat antisocial behaviour. so if every young person is as bad as you say go to the council or ha and stop moaning on here
Alison W
when i moved into my flat most people on the street were middle aged or elderly and the area was extremely quiet, i'm now surrounded by 18 - 23 year olds and it's a total nightmare, loud music, excessive swearing, loud motorbikes revving more than necessary and repeated damage to my car!!  i know not all kids are a pain but some certainly know how to ruin peoples lives
Helen M
The correct way to deal with this is via the council, keep logs and the council will write to the 'offenders' explaining the complaint.
We got lucky and after a short while our noisy neighbour stopped and then moved. Sometimes people are not aware of the level of annoyance they cause.
Another neighbour had disco decks and speakers and I did the same, complained and it stopped. Maybe I just got lucky? Or maybe they just need to made aware through the correct channels....
Good luck to anyone experiencing problems.

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